Offside Passenger Window(s) Not Working

[JRWR]

Both the offside passenger window and the window behind that which opens slightly (control button close to the gear lever) have stopped working on my MkII Galaxy. The passenger window doesn't work with either the driver door switch or the passenger door switch and there's no 'clicking' noise from the door (which there is from other doors when you attempt to close them and they're already closed)

 

I've tried disconnecting and reconnecting the passenger door electrics as described in the FAQs but I'm not then sure how to access the wires which a search on the forum suggested it could be (after flexing from the door being opened and closed they may fatigue and break?) Is it necessary to removed the door trim?

 

Incidentally, global closing works on the remaining 3 windows but global opening doesn't on any window - I don't think it ever has.

 

Any suggestions much appreciated.

 

Cheers,

JRWR

[seatkid]

Broken wires in the rubber gaitors between the doors and body are the usual cause of these problems. Pull them back and check the wires.

[JRWR]

Thanks Seatkit

 

Managed to get time to check today and indeed there are about 3 wires broken and various other wires frayed! I daren't reconnect the door incase something shorts so I've left it tucked up by the door pilar and locked the door manually from the inside for now.

 

The wires may be repairable if I solder some splices pieces in but soldered joints are going to fail again quite quickly. Time to save my pennies for a new door wiring loom -

[gregers]

just go to somewhere like maplins for the correct gauge of wire/s,and solder away,either use the heatshrink stuff or just tape them up?

[JRWR]

I'm not sure if the attached shows the extent of the broken wires. They are frayed/broken in one place and then also again about 1" further towards the door (behind the rubber gaitor in this pic). The grey wire is completely broken and others are exposed.

 

This is a design fault. If copper wires are used somewhere that they'll be stressed back and forth each time the door is opened then they'll fail. Perhaps steel wires should have been used. I think any repair with solder is going to fail again quite quickly - faster than the original fail. I did consider patching them up and I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has done so with any success.

[gregers]

look in the faqs (tech section)there are detailed instructions on soldering wires especially in the door area.

yes it is a bad design how do you think fords and the like keep going...........by designing problems into there cars so peeps like us pay out endlessly to them,hence why forums like this 1 was set up,to save us all a few quid.

[edatelder]

I used small connector blocks to join the wires together. Quick and no need to solder. Just use one con block per wire and use a small screwdriver to tighten it up.

[JRWR]

I used small connector blocks to join the wires together. Quick and no need to solder. Just use one con block per wire and use a small screwdriver to tighten it up.

Thanks edatelder

 

They must be quite small connectors but if they work then I suppose they're not actually shortening the cable.

 

Anyway, I've decided to repair mine by soldering but that has meant a delay of a week while I get the necessary bits together:

 

Soldering iron station (50W adjustable) + solder, bits, tweezers, de-solder pump etc (

[gregers]

Hope you didn't think I was knocking the forum gregers - quite the contrary, it has already saved me several hundred quid. (I used the info here to replace front and rear brake discs and pads.)

 

 

not at all m8,we all get a bit pissed off when these endless stupid design faults mean repairs have to be done,and its saved me quite a few quid also :)